#13 - Sara Rian

 

EPISODE #13

Zach sits down with poet and trauma therapist Sara Rian for an intimate exploration of death, grief, and the profound ways we carry the memories of those we’ve lost. After losing her mom to suicide in 2018, Sara began writing poetry to process her grief in real time, the latest book being, Then Death Came. Sara openly shares her complicated relationship with death—from childhood anxieties to adult uncertainties—and discusses the powerful role poetry has played in helping her navigate the overwhelming emotions of loss. Together, Zach and Sara delve into the idea that grief isn't limited to death alone, but extends to all losses we encounter, and how finding spaces for open conversation can ease the heavy isolation grief often brings.


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